Comments on: blog.worship.com http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/ The first in-depth, journalistic account of a musical phenomenon that has exploded in recent years: Christian rock. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:14:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: andrew http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-222 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:38:25 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-222 I haven't seen Jay's piece, so I'll reserve judgment till I have. If he does in fact, object to my using Ebel's quotes after he said, "Don't put that in your book"...well, that's disappointing. Here's how "off-the-record" conversations work: A source and a journalist agree that, to get certain information, the journalist will attribute the source's comments on background. It's not a one-way decision. Brandon Ebel doesn't get to throw a switch during interviews and move all action offstage--he's either being interviewed or he isn't. If there's something he wants me to know but doesn't want attributed to him, well, that's something we can discuss, but it's not a process he gets to dictate. I haven’t seen Jay’s piece, so I’ll reserve judgment till I have. If he does in fact, object to my using Ebel’s quotes after he said, “Don’t put that in your book”…well, that’s disappointing.

Here’s how “off-the-record” conversations work: A source and a journalist agree that, to get certain information, the journalist will attribute the source’s comments on background. It’s not a one-way decision. Brandon Ebel doesn’t get to throw a switch during interviews and move all action offstage–he’s either being interviewed or he isn’t. If there’s something he wants me to know but doesn’t want attributed to him, well, that’s something we can discuss, but it’s not a process he gets to dictate.

]]> by: Silvia http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-220 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:52:32 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-220 Hi Andrew, I'd like to hear what you think about the way CCM (Jay Swartzendruber)reviewed your book. It was rather depressing to see the remarks about your "don't put this in the book" (which is also a pitiful thing to say for a true Christian I think). "Depressing" because I really side for some of these young guys in the CCM industry but then, again, they have this "authority complex"... In other words, I am tempted to say that this is not about the "gentleman approach" of Christian market journalists as Swartzendruber put it; unfortunately, it is about having issues with a journalist's freedom instead of looking at what he has to say about the subject. In other words, of all the things he might have talked about (maybe opening up a forum initiated for once by a "secular" writer!), he preferred to focus on his vanity and the Christian interpretation of good manners in journalism. C'mon! By the way, I would also like to know what you Andrew and the others think about Lauren Sandler's Righteous if you read it. Hi Andrew,
I’d like to hear what you think about the way CCM (Jay Swartzendruber)reviewed your book. It was rather depressing to see the remarks about your “don’t put this in the book” (which is also a pitiful thing to say for a true Christian I think). “Depressing” because I really side for some of these young guys in the CCM industry but then, again, they have this “authority complex”…

In other words, I am tempted to say that this is not about the “gentleman approach” of Christian market journalists as Swartzendruber put it; unfortunately, it is about having issues with a journalist’s freedom instead of looking at what he has to say about the subject. In other words, of all the things he might have talked about (maybe opening up a forum initiated for once by a “secular” writer!), he preferred to focus on his vanity and the Christian interpretation of good manners in journalism. C’mon!

By the way, I would also like to know what you Andrew and the others think about Lauren Sandler’s Righteous if you read it.

]]> by: Andree Farias http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-161 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:26:13 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-161 Hey, man... You'd be interested to know that Jay @ CCM dedicated the October '06 editorial page to your book. You may want to check it out... He raises some interesting concerns. There's also a small blurb about the book in the Insider section of the magazine, I believe. (Thanks for quoting me, by the way...) Hey, man…

You’d be interested to know that Jay @ CCM dedicated the October ‘06 editorial page to your book.

You may want to check it out… He raises some interesting concerns.

There’s also a small blurb about the book in the Insider section of the magazine, I believe.

(Thanks for quoting me, by the way…)

]]> by: Wally http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-127 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:11:35 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-127 Excellent book Andrew. I would think that the main reason "Mainstream Christianity" hasn't touched the book is because they are pretty ignorant about the world, just as people in NY couldn't believe there is this Christian Subculture. Christianity Today picked it up because they actually have a clue in their music department. I'd agree that you should've talked to a few more fans, but Doug from HM is one of the biggest fans I know. If you ever do a follow up with fans (I've been to Cornerstone 11 times), let me know. Again, awesome job and God bless. Excellent book Andrew. I would think that the main reason “Mainstream Christianity” hasn’t touched the book is because they are pretty ignorant about the world, just as people in NY couldn’t believe there is this Christian Subculture. Christianity Today picked it up because they actually have a clue in their music department. I’d agree that you should’ve talked to a few more fans, but Doug from HM is one of the biggest fans I know. If you ever do a follow up with fans (I’ve been to Cornerstone 11 times), let me know. Again, awesome job and God bless.

]]> by: Avery http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-124 Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:46:37 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-124 http://leaveittoavery.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/not-really-a-review-but/ You like the blog reviews... Honestly I didn't know you had this blog until I was looking for a place to link to about the book. No I didn't really review the book, but I did love it. Honestly I loved the book. I picked it up in the library to just check out the interviews with the bands, i was expecting the book to be the same crap that gets put out all the time on the pros on cons of "christian rock" and how it affects my salvation....... anyways, mad props. loved the book, rock on. http://leaveittoavery.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/not-really-a-review-but/

You like the blog reviews… Honestly I didn’t know you had this blog until I was looking for a place to link to about the book.

No I didn’t really review the book, but I did love it. Honestly I loved the book.

I picked it up in the library to just check out the interviews with the bands, i was expecting the book to be the same crap that gets put out all the time on the pros on cons of “christian rock” and how it affects my salvation…….

anyways, mad props. loved the book, rock on.

]]> by: mike http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-122 Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:48:06 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-122 It makes sense to me. You've provided a somewhat critical look at the Christian music world (though nowhere near as scathing as they probably expected) and you're not a practicing Christian yourself. If CCM is anything like the "shiny shoe" Jewish music scene, these two facts alone are enough to dampen interest. Perhaps smaller zines and blogs are more open to a fresh point of view. It makes sense to me. You’ve provided a somewhat critical look at the Christian music world (though nowhere near as scathing as they probably expected) and you’re not a practicing Christian yourself. If CCM is anything like the “shiny shoe” Jewish music scene, these two facts alone are enough to dampen interest. Perhaps smaller zines and blogs are more open to a fresh point of view.

]]> by: Byron Borger http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-106 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:13:17 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-106 Andrew: Loved the book. I've carried it in my indie bookstore since it came out; we are a Christian bookstore, I suppose, but much more diverse than, well, perhaps any other such CBA member shop. Don't get me started about the lack of awareness and vision among so many who ought to know better... I've done a mini-review at our blog, and want to continue to promote the book. If we could work it out, would you consider coming up to PA (not far north of Baltimore) to do a reading or siging or something? Could be fun. Some folks from Messiah College might be able to come over, too, since we are not that far from them. Thanks again. Check out our (almost) rave review at www.heartsandmindsbooknotes.blogspot.com. Peace. Andrew: Loved the book. I’ve carried it in my indie bookstore since it came out; we are a Christian bookstore, I suppose, but much more diverse than, well, perhaps any other such CBA member shop. Don’t get me started about the lack of awareness and vision among so many who ought to know better…

I’ve done a mini-review at our blog, and want to continue to promote the book.

If we could work it out, would you consider coming up to PA (not far north of Baltimore) to do a reading or siging or something? Could be fun. Some folks from Messiah College might be able to come over, too, since we are not that far from them.

Thanks again. Check out our (almost) rave review at www.heartsandmindsbooknotes.blogspot.com. Peace.

]]> by: Matthew Smith http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-105 Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:03:10 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-105 I think I was mistaken about <i>Relevant</i>... I think I was mistaken about Relevant…

]]> by: RBerman http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-104 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:26:10 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-104 I suspect the presence of non- G-rated language will keep all the major Christian magazines away, at least on the record. They are just as attuned to the "safe" aspect of their product as the CCM industry is. I suspect the presence of non- G-rated language will keep all the major Christian magazines away, at least on the record. They are just as attuned to the “safe” aspect of their product as the CCM industry is.

]]> by: andrew http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-103 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:02:33 +0000 http://www.bodypiercingsavedmylife.com/2006/08/04/blogworshipcom/#comment-103 I haven't seen the Relevant piece. I'm not holding my breath for CCM--surely they'd have covered it by now if they were going to do something. I haven’t seen the Relevant piece. I’m not holding my breath for CCM–surely they’d have covered it by now if they were going to do something.

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